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A conversation with the Ambassador of the
Republic of
Poland to
the
Republic of
Belarus Henryk Litwin. The
interview went on air in the framework of a Polish-Belarusian radio project “
Warsaw
Bridge”
on a Minsk-based radio station Autoradio: 105.1 and 67.7 FM.
Fal Putiowy and Valera Sauko, reporters of the “Polish Radio for Abroad”,
were interviewing the Ambassador Henryk Litwin.
“Mr. Ambassador, could the economic cooperation between
Belarus and
Poland be set as an example? For reference, last year common trade in goods
surpassed 2 billion US dollars, including the service sphere”.
“It would be hard to answer your question in simple words. On one hand,
we are all happy that we reached a steady growth in trade in goods. On the
other hand, the level is far from what it could be between the neighbouring
countries and economically strong countries like
Poland
and
Belarus. If one compares trade in goods between
Russia and
Ukraine, it becomes obvious that the trade with
Belarus
should be larger. However one should remember that yet several years ago
representatives of both sides were hoping for the level of trade in goods
somewhat around 1 billion US dollars. Now it is 2 billion… It signifies that
the growth is high, though there is still a lot of work ahead of us”.
“Today a process of privatization has been initiated in
Belarus. Whether Polish companies are interested in taking part in this
process?”
“Interested, indeed, though so far it is hard to go into detail. Polish
companies, interested in this process, first of all represent private
companies. We know that certain companies show interest, however we do not have
more detailed information.
For the moment being, it is hard to say something concrete due to the
fact that investors are researching, looking for partners and opportunities. If
they find them, contracts will be signed and it will become possible to say
something concrete. In the meantime, we observe high level of interest”.
“There is a stereotype that some time ago Polish companies were entering
so-called Eastern markets cautiously. Whether the situation has changed now?”
“To be honest, I do not quite understand what you are talking about.
Indeed, there are certain problems and specifics regarding working with the
East. However on the other hand, there are a lot of experts in
Poland
that deal with the mentioned above markets and they know well the situation at the
Eastern European markets. They have a lot of experience, many contacts, they
learned to work on this territory and achieving good results. We may talk about
rapid growth of the trade in goods with
Belarus
and with
Ukraine as well. Also the trade in goods with
Russia
is still high though not as good as at some point.
It seems to me that there is a great interest in
Poland
in CIS countries markets. Clearly, large companies face certain difficulties,
however small and medium businesses do not complain about that”.
“Now let’s talk about cultural links that unite Belarusian and Polish people.
Indeed, it is a result of the common historical background dating back
centuries. A few years ago an opening of the house-museum of A. Mickiewich took
place in Novogrudok, there were a number of other events too. Is there anything
planned for the near future with regard to cultural activities with participation
of the Polish side, including the Polish Ambassador in
Minsk?”
“We constantly organize a lot of various events. Talking about large-scale
events with participation of representatives of both countries and TV, so far
there are no such events planned. It is more important that we constantly work
on various issues. I believe the Director of the Polish Institute in
Minsk could
tell you more about it.
I may only mention that practically every month an important event
related to the Polish culture is organized. For instance, in autumn we are
preparing a large concert with participation of Belarusian and Polish artists,
the Ninth Symphony of Beethoven will be performed. In addition to that we are
also planning to stage a concert dedicated to our national holiday: in
September there will be a big event linked to Gerbert Anniversary. Therefore if
one is interested, he or she could find an event linked to Polish culture in
Minsk almost
every week”.
“Representatives of the Polish Institute are regular guests of the “
Warsaw
Bridge”, therefore our listeners know about the events organized by it. In the
near future we will be discussing a large forthcoming event the “Polish Autumn”.
“We are preparing for the Year of Chopin with lots of events. Indeed,
anything linked to the common history is very important. It also contributes to
general cooperation between our countries. It seems to be that this area was
left aside somehow previously however today there is positive approach from
both sides. It now may work for our benefit in various fields”.
“There are lots of places in
Belarus and
Poland linked by common historical background. Whether these places and common
historical background assist in improving neighbourhood connections today and
whether they may assist in the future?”
“It depends on us only. The fact of existence of these places may become
a drawback just as it may become a benefit. As of today, it is most likely a
benefit as we have learned not to divide the common ancestry: it is our common tradition,
common property. It helps, indeed. Talking about preservation of architectural
relicts, we jointly work on that in Nesvizh. In the same town a session of the
International Nesvizh Summer School is taking place, which is an extremely
interesting event for young people from
Poland
and
Belarus. Some projects are also connected to Nesvizh, for instance, Nesvizh
library of virtual archive. It definitely brings us closer and helps to build
contacts. There are other common places and probably even more that we know,
one just needs to look for them. Everything connected to Adam Mickiewich
provides with a ground for such cooperation. I think that with our joint
efforts a tourist rout following places linked to Mickiewich could be
elaborated. We could improve infrastructure, do something together due to the
fact that Mickiewich is a significant figure for both countries”.
“Mr. Ambassador, I think that our listeners, Belarusian citizens, would
be interested in this subject. They become frequent visitors to
Poland while traveling around
Europe. What is the current situation with the issuance of Schengen and
National Polish visas by the Polish consulates in
Belarus? It is not a secret that from time to time the Media reports about
allegedly inappropriate work of the Consulates”.
“I am aware there are complaints however one
should talk about concrete complaints. I totally disagree that our Consulates
are working inappropriately. Indeed, some of them are in a complex situation,
especially the one in
Grodno where the Consulate building is not
corresponding to the needs and their working conditions are hard. The situation
is also complicated in
Brest, where the circumstances led to that not all
staff could perform their duties and that did not depend on the Consul.
Therefore people have to wait to submit their applications in
Grodno and
Brest. When an individual comes to a Consulate in
Minsk, he or she may submit documents on the same
day. Indeed then one has to wait for a visa. However that is a separate issue
which does not depend on the Consul. It should be understood that after
Poland joined the Schengen zone, a Consul is
launching so-called electronic procedure and that is it, there is nothing he
can do about it. Indeed, people find it hard to comprehend.
Therefore we have surpassed the barriers in
Minsk, also the situation in
Brest and in
Grodno is improving though one has to wait. I think
that in
Grodno and in
Brest all issues should be solved before October.
Clearly, there are unhappy people, for instance someone was rejected a
visa, another had to pay for his visa though he thought that would not be the
case. I headed a Consulate twice and I know that it is a complicated job. No
matter how hard you try the majority will be discontent anyway. People are
leaving the Consulate unhappy though the staff of the consulate is falling from
fatigue. Those who have not received a visa think it was a Consul’s fault. It
is a complicated job… I hope that those people who apply for a visa would treat
our work and conditions with understanding. We are constantly looking for ways
to improve the situation and we realize that there are certain issues, linked
to technical opportunities. However we try to issue visas as soon as possible
for those who comply with all the criteria. It should be understood that when
certain barriers occur, they may not depend on the Consul”.
“Some time ago there was unconfirmed information that the Belarusian
side apparently was looking for an opportunity to open a Consulate in the West
of
Poland, due to the fact that there were no Consular establishments of
Belarus. Is Polish side regarding an opportunity to open a Consulate in the
East of
Belarus, given that the Eastern parts of the country are attributed to the Consular
section in
Minsk. Are there any projects of the kind?”
“No, however the issue was discussed in
Poland
for several years. It would be reasonable to open a Consulate in
Vitebsk however given
the current circumstances it makes no sense to overcomplicate the situation. We
have to improve the work of the Consulates in
Minsk,
Brest and
Grodno first.
For the moment being our main task is to find a new building for the Consulate
in
Grodno. It seems to me that it would also be hard to find financial resources
for building two consulates, given we also plan to start a construction of an
Embassy building in
Minsk. For the moment being the most important thing is to solve the issue with
the Consulate in
Grodno, after that we could start thinking about other things”.
“Poles come to
Belarus by car, Belarusians also travel to
Poland and you as well travel a lot by car. What is your opinion, are there
any things in common or different between Belarusian and Polish drivers?”
“That is an interesting question… I have an impression that in the city
of
Minsk cars enjoy more freedom that in
Warsaw or other
large cities of
Poland. Indeed the difference is minor. Talking about highways, in
Poland
if you want to bypass another car, a car in front of you would move to the
right to give you way. It is not always the case in
Belarus…
It happens they do not let you pass by. I never bypass a car from the right, I
try to let them know somehow, give a signal… That is the only obvious
difference that comes to mind immediately. I think the reason behind it is that
the part of the road we usually take when going to
Warsaw, between
Minsk and
Brest, is extremely good and wide, while in
Poland
this road is not that good. In
Poland
it is hard to drive when someone is not giving the way. However in reality
there are no huge differences”.
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